シリア大統領のテレビ・インタビュー(その1)

治安状況は改善している。(焦点は)爆弾、暗殺、バス襲撃など軍事的行動に移っている。これら措置の成功が確認できたら正式に発表する。私は今の状況を心配していない。治安は改善すると言うことができる。

問題解決には政治解決しかなく、治安による解決は考えていない。しかし、治安を維持するという意味の治安措置はある。

(3月半ばにデモ・暴動が発生して)数週間後に政治改革パッケージを提示できたのは、以前から準備していたからだ。しかし、政治改革には治安の維持が必要で、それは国家の義務の一つである。

当初、国民対話の諮問会議は、まず地方から開くつもりでいたが、事態が悪化したのと、改革に対する信頼性に疑問が付けられたので、中央で開いた。そこに出席した反体制派は選挙で選ばれていないという問題は抱えているが、とにかく意見を取り入れることが重要だと考えた。野党が結成され、野党がシリア各地に支部を設け、様々な階層の意見を中央に送るようにするには年月がかかる。今は新制度へ移行する暫定期間と考えているので、出席者の正当性には目をつぶった。

憲法8条(バアス党の指導性)は現行憲法の基幹だが、それに関連した条項も合わせて改正する方向。

8月25日(木)までに政党法を公布しなければならない。そして、来週(8月28日(日))から政党設立の申請を受け付ける。(申請を受け付ける委員会の)委員人選は既に完了しており、数日以内に発表する。選挙法、地方自治法の改正も数日以内に用意できる予定である。選挙日程はあとで決める。

多くの若者と対話したが、若年層の疎外感が強く、何とかしないといけないと考えている。

地方自治法の改正について、政府部内での検討は終了しており、数日以内に公布する。地方選挙の実施は、45日前に発表する規定になっているが、その前に、法が改正されたら、地方自治省内部の組織変更に3ヶ月かかるので、組織面の準備が完了するのは12月になる。従って、地方選挙の選挙日は12月になるだろう。

メディア法の準備もできており、8月末までに公布する。メディア委員会(と民間メディア)が新規に活動を始め、総選挙に臨むわけだが、準備期間がどれくらい必要かという点について議論があり、4ヶ月から8ヶ月まで幅がある。中間を取って6ヶ月とすると、総選挙の日取りは2012年2月になる。

クルドへの国籍付与については、2002年8月にハサケを訪問したときから検討を始めていた。しかし、2004年3月に、国籍付与を政治利用する勢力がおり、クルドとアラブの対立を引き起こした。そこで一旦作業を中断したが、対話は続けた。(デモが始まった)初期の4月に国籍付与法を公布したのは、事前に全ての検討が終わり、署名するだけだったからだ。

(デモ鎮圧の過程で不当な理由で死亡した事案を調査する)法務委員会について、調査が遅いという苦情があり、自分自身も何回かコンタクトしたが、自分は重要なことは透明性だと考えている。自分は委員会の一部ではなく、全ての調査権限を有している委員会が作業を進めている。

シリア政治改革に対する西側諸国の否定的な反応について、昔からのことで、ブッシュ(子)とライサ国務長官の時もそうだった。言葉を変えながら、同じ対応を続けている。西側諸国のうち、植民地主義的な国は、自国が欲しい物を手に入れ、他国の権利を否定する。これが彼らにとっての解決だ。(シリアの)抵抗を取り上げ、権利を取り上げ、敵を守る。

米英仏独からの退陣要求について、過去数日、多くのシリア人から「なぜ反論しないのか」と質問を受けた。私は、非友好国からのこのような発言を敢えて無視することで、彼らの言葉に意味がないことを示した。シリア人は、誰かから言われて対米抵抗をしているのではなく、シリア人自身が対米抵抗の原則を持ち、権利を手放さないと主張している。

人権問題は、他国に干渉したいときに西側諸国が使う言葉。私はこれら諸国に対し、アフガニスタン、イラク、リビア、パレスチナの人権を忘れるなと指摘している。

シリアと西側の大国との関係について、表面的には関係が良好に見えていた時期にも、彼らはいつも内政干渉しようとしていた。今の事態は新しいことではなく、危機が見えるから特別なことが起きているように見えるだけだ。同じことをきれいな言葉で表現するか、脅迫の言葉で表現するかの違いに過ぎない(笑)。

2003年にバグダードが陥落した数週間後、米国政府高官がやってきて、イラクの次はシリアだと脅迫し、要求事項を1,2,3,4・・・と挙げてきた。自分は全部断った(笑)。すると、シリア批判が始まった。しばらくして米国から軍事地図が送られてきた。それを見ると、爆撃目標がいくつか示されていた。安保理(で制裁するという)脅迫が始まった。このようなことが、繰り返されている。この話を公言するのは初めてだ。

シリアに対する脅迫が効かない理由は、地政学的な重要性があって、反動のほうが大きいからだ。他の理由もある。従って、我々は、虚像と事実を見極め、適切に対処すれば、恐れることは何もない。安保理への対応も難しくない。

経済的な影響について、特に観光業が受けた影響は大きいが、今は東方に米欧とは異なる世界があり、バアス党は2005年に東方に向かう決定を下した。我々が必要とするハイテクやほとんどの基礎物資は東方にある

シリアは食糧自給率が高いので、封鎖でシリア人を飢えさせることは不可能である。他の国には効いても、シリアには効かない。近隣諸国および友好国と通常通りの売買をし、普通の生活を送ることができる

トルコとの関係については、近隣の我々と類似の国と対話することは重要だと考えているが、内政干渉する行為については、近い・遠いにかかわらず、断固拒否する。過去10年に二国間でやってきたことは、20世紀の人々の記憶と否定的な歴史を清算する作業で、これについては成功した。この関係は国家関係とは分けて考えなければならない。

トルコ政府高官の発言の数々については、いろんな側面を検討しなければならない。親切心から発した言葉ならば感謝しなければならないかもしれないが、本心までは読めない。もし、トルコがシリアの上に立つというつもりで発言しているならば、断固拒否する。

真意が何であれ、シリア側は対応策を持っている。

メディア法については、政府と国民の間のパイプ役として、客観的な報道を求めるに留まらず、国民の一人一人がその役割を果たすことを視野に入れている(注:新法では、従来型の報道機関のほか、個人ジャーナリストの存在も認めている)。

腐敗根絶について、現在進めているところだが、様々な力が働くので、簡単ではない。移行期間であることもあり、法律の抜け道もある。ここで重要な役割を果たすのがメディアである。

シリアには5000年の歴史があり、危機を乗り越える度に強くなってきた。危機をのりこえたあと、またシリア人が現れる。私は危機に直面してシリアが消滅すると思わない。従って、私は何も心配していないし、誰に対しても心配するよう言わない。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w_Rm_dQbp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dRTjddBRQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNhPf2-27YY



President al-Assad: The Solution in Syria Is Political…There Will be Elections and Review of Constitution
http://www.sana.sy/ara/2/2011/08/21/365273.htm
http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/08/21/365282.htm
(とりあえず自動翻訳を以下にコピペしておくが、時間をおいて/eng/を見れば、英訳が整っていると思う。)
Aug 21, 2011

Conducted Syrian Arab TV this evening, a dialogue with President Bashar al-Assad about the events taking place in Syria and the reality of Syria and the destination in light of international and regional surroundings add to the reform and implementation of decrees and laws, its own and Syria's relationship with the West and its dealings with the campaign of international pressure.

President al-Assad said in response to a question about entering into the stage of security assurance: We cannot take the security aspect in isolation from all other aspects and what is important is the political side and the economic and the social aspect is important .. But we call all these aspects of the political dimension .. Important to know where we are to know what causes the former to the current events and know how to deal with it later.

The President added that what today is not assured of the security situation, which seems to be the best, but to reassure us that the plan was totally different .. At first the demand was the overthrow of Syria in a few weeks .. Fever and the nation is aware of the Syrian people and this reassured him .. If .. Aggravation of events is not a problem now .. For the security situation is currently turning more toward armed action, especially in recent weeks, particularly in the last Friday of the points during the attack on the army and police, security and other and throwing bombs, assassinations and ambushes of buses civil or military .. This may seem dangerous for the question of whether the situation is better in terms of security but in fact we are able to deal with it .. We began by delivering security recently announce it would not now need the success of these procedures .. But I'm not worried about these events now .. Yes, I can say that the situation in terms of security the better.

In response to a question concerning the handling of security for the Syrian leadership with the events and say that the deal the Syrian chose the option of security away from all the options and other solutions, including the political, President Assad has raised this issue several times and was the answer that no such thing as a security solution is the option the security .. There is only a political solution, even countries that go to armies waging wars go for the goal of a political and not for military target .. No choice, but there is a security to maintain security in order to be precise.

President al-Assad: Syria is the solution in a political solution, but there are cases when the security must be addressed to institutions concerned with the preservation of security, such as police, security and anti-riot and counter-terrorism as well as the relevant security agencies .. If to be clear in Syria, the solution is a political solution if we had chosen a political solution since the early days of the events of what we went towards the reform and after less than a week if the reforms we announced a package of choice or option for the State Syrian Syrian political solution is the option .. But a political solution cannot succeed without the maintenance of security and this is the one of the duties of the state.

And on the new drive to the meeting of members of the Central Committee of the Baath Arab Socialist party cadres and representatives of trade unions and professional organizations, held a few days ago and the most important issues discussed, said President Assad .. Sometimes some people expected from this type of meetings to make decisions .. Is not a conference but a meeting of cadres of high and medium for the Baath Arab Socialist Party, it is natural that these meetings are from time to time on a regular basis and of course this meeting was to meet periodically, but was associated with the events of Syria .. We held meetings at the leadership level, but did not hold such a meeting since the beginning of the events .. Where we put our views and listened to the views .. We explained to staff what happens .. How did the events .. How have .. Where are we now from this side .. On the other hand we discussed the issue of the reform package put forward, especially after the near end of the laws that I talked about in my speech on the tarmac at the University of Damascus .. Later in the period ahead will be to move to discuss the issue of the constitution, something essential was to be listening to the views held by staff, which supposedly reflect the views of the rules of this part of the Baathist .. The other hand, the Baath Party is the party that drafted the past and present Syria during the five decades and have a discussion about what are the mechanisms that can develop in which the party work to remain in his position over the coming decades.

In response to a question on national dialogue and to where he arrived on President Assad: I noticed during the last period there is sometimes a misunderstanding of what is the content or functions of the national dialogue ... At first I thought of during my meetings with Syrian citizens to start a dialogue at the provincial level, but the acceleration of events and questioned the credibility of the reform process led us to begin a dialogue central before we start a dialogue at the provincial level .. This dialogue, we've used before issuing the hotfix package or a package of laws that precedes the constitution in order to test the pulse of the street in general .. Of course they do not represent the said street and of course one is not only if elected and this is something obvious, but they are models of the various segments of Syrian society we want to hear the pulse of what is .. Our knowledge of this pulse, but we need to look more closely in order to get to the package of laws and we are satisfied and now was part of the laws and the rest on the road on schedule .. We are in a transitional stage and we will follow the laws and there will be elections and there will be a review of the constitution .. Is a phase transition, and even after all this package we will remain in a transitional stage .. And the transitional phase is the stage of critical and sensitive and the most important thing at this stage to continue the dialogue .. So now we have decided after this package were to start a dialogue to work for provincial addresses for everything .. Political issues and social issues and service .. Of course, this function of parties .. But the parties needed time to become established and located in the street and need to mature for a period of time .. This dialogue during this transition phase is very necessary if we are preparing to have a dialogue at the provincial level.

And on the Constitution and whether we were in front of a new constitution for the country and the procedural steps for this ... President Assad: This is one of the most important points discussed during the meeting of the Central Committee and the branches in the provinces .. There is an amendment of Article VIII .. This article is the essence of the political system in the constitution .. There are several articles related to this article .. Vtbdel Article VIII is the only talk is not a logical switch, and other materials without the eighth article also is illogical .. These materials I am talking about and associated with the eighth overall embodies the essence of the political system in Syria .. And thus deal with any item required to deal with all the other items .. It is obvious that there will be a review of the Constitution, whether the target or the rest of Article VIII, political items .. Must review the constitution .. At least this package of items related to each other.

Responding to a question on the procedures applied and the approximate timetable for the impementation and legal elections and parties on the ground once and said President Assad .. Not accurately approximate .. This week means the next few days until Thursday to issue a must for the law of parties .. Committee on the Admission of applications of any committee, composed of parties and the Interior Minister and a judge and three independent figures .. We almost finished the search for names and will be issued the decision within the next few days .. For the election law also would be ready, but the election law was associated by the law of parties and linked to another aspect of the law of local administration which will also be ready in the next few days with instructions to issue the executive .. And later could determine the election date.

And about what was done to the laws of the new citizen and street Syrian general told President Assad: Technically there are new things in the law that increase the credibility and transparency of the elections and this is known from the core of the law .. But the application of the law depends on the voter .. Of elected and whether we will remain in the way we talk about whether the previous parties and new political system and many things new and big ambitions mechanisms previous ... Then there will be something new and I am for me and I believe that the most important thing is how we pay the youth in our institutions, whether in or outside the State .. Young people as noted in my meetings in different and I interviewed a lot of young people during the past months there is a great sense of marginalization among young people in particular and this is something dangerous and creates a frustrating .. If the young man frustrated with the state where energy ... Power is young and frustrated when the young man, it means that the energy in the country and in the home and extinguished the risk of this thing .. I think it has to be in a different way to think as a society as a whole that this young man has a role .. He will not replace the rest of the ages, society is made up of all strata and all classes and all ages, but do not have a role or that Anzeralih as marginal and it is a little experience or little knowledge This is something very dangerous and I think this is the most important point that we can develop through the future in Syria in general.

And speed up the application of the law on media and political movement and the occurrence of real reform and the mechanism of implementation of decrees and laws, schedule and hold parliamentary elections and amend the constitution, said President al-Assad issued so far three laws .. Abolition of the state of emergency and the law of parties and election law .. As I said in the coming days will be issued a resolution called for the Law Committee and immediately after the parties both want to establish that the party could come forward to this Committee and the decree becomes effective .. Any starting next week is supposed to be practically ready to announce new parties and to accept requests from parties within the timetable established by law and subject Venattabr terminated.

The President added .. The law of local administration ended a few days ago in the government, will be released during the next few days .. And linking the local government law with the law of elections is a natural link .. Local Administration Act gives the minimum 45-day deadline for the announcement of elections .. When the decree is issued to set a date elections will be 45 days ahead of any month and a half .. Since this law came amendments to the administrative structure of local administration, the Ministry of Local Administration requested that there is also the time of a similar deadline in order to have time to prepare this new structure .. If we can say that the elections of local administration can be, three months after the issuance of this law .. Thus, practically, in the month of December.

President Assad: What is left is the media law is supposed to be released before the end of Ramadan and issued executive instructions and start directly applied .. After the package of laws after the month of Ramadan to be moving to form a committee to begin to study and review of the constitution .. This committee needs a minimum of three months I do not think they need more than six months .. Of course, this exact date or precise time-table should be placed in coordination with the committee that would study and say that we need four or five or six months and there is still the People's Assembly elections .. There were several opinions ranging from four months to eight months after the issuance of executive instructions of the electoral law and the goal is to have the opportunity for parties to be formed and be able to enter the competition .. We believe that the logical time of six months as a compromise if we can say that the expected time of parliamentary elections is in February next .. And this package of laws and procedures we have finished the stage of reform of the legislative, electoral and then move on to the application and then there is word of another.

In response to a question about whether a decree granting citizenship to the Kurds was the result of the brothers about the possibility of moving this factor in the crisis, President al .. Indeed, the first time to raise this issue was in August 2002 when I visited Hasaka and met with leaders in the province, including the brothers the Kurds and spoke on the subject and the answer in that visit that this issue right and humanitarian situation must be dealt with and we will begin to dissolve the subject.

The President added .. We started to take direct action and study the possibilities and there were several scenarios of what form any legal and constitutional for the issuance of such a decision ... And walked in it and of course were not the movement quick, but we almost end up in the beginning of 2004 that started the events in Hasaka and Qamishli specifically in the month of March in 2004, where she tried some of the forces or personalities or institutions to exploit the issue of granting citizenship to political gains will result for the repulsion between Kurds and Arabs. . Then we stopped for us and the subject and we started a process of dialogue with different forces and we noticed that there is a continuous attempt to exploit this issue.

The President added: the truth that when we decided to issue this decree at the beginning of the events was ready for it was quickly means that the studies were finished and the decisions on paper was not, there are just signing the decree, and we as a principle cannot think this way because this is the first charge of the Kurds that they are not national and if we think this way, it means that the deal between the state and the people is the way of bribery and this threat .. No country that respects its people and its transformation into mercenaries .. This talk is unacceptable and the Syrian people is an ancient and civilized people and our brothers the Kurds are an essential part of the fabric of the Syrian Arab .. As I said years ago, Syria without any of its components cannot be Syria, which we know cannot be stable if not feel every citizen as a basis, not a guest and not a bird, an immigrant cannot be a patriot and this is unsettled us in Syria .. The case was the technology and some tried to turn it into a political issue .. If we go back to our history just as we fought the French and other colonists of the Kurds was also hurled a number of volumes that have faced any of the French Revolution v manageable and not just the rebels except for past history and the subsequent history and today .. And therefore we consider this question the rejected and we consider the general national situation for the Kurds, Arabs and others are intuitive.

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